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lucypiller enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JAZLOCHRIE enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: īello! JAZLOCHRIE: Hello....be back in a moī lucypiller: Hello Y'all JimCasey: Hi there Lucy lucypiller: I was just talking Jaz through what he needed to do lucypiller: Hi Jim JimCasey: How are you? Hope all is well; thanks for hosting this today lucypiller: Howard is all set up I see, but maybe he also wont be here till 3pm lucypiller: well it is a special day right? JimCasey: Yes ītis! I always like to honor koss on 3-19 and on his birthday... lucypiller: right......... JimCasey: Not a day goes by that I donīt think of him lucypiller: How is the Kossoff forum going? JimCasey: Heīs always here... JimCasey: Actually, I just checked in there for the first time in a while today...been very busy at work lucypiller: so how many run it? I am not sure who they are... JAZLOCHRIE leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: Iīm just a member there, I donīt run it at all..,I believe itīs run by a girl in Europe somewhere.. JimCasey: I think she also may have a Zeppelin forum she runs as well, but Iīve not seen it lucypiller: right JimCasey: How is Robert and Samara doing? Please give them my best lucypiller: Yes I will, Samara is looking around for colleges in April. Time flies JimCasey: Oh wow! Cool! JimCasey: I wonder if Jacob or Tom Guerra will pop in today lucypiller: We shall see, dont hear from Jacob much these days. Is he working ?? JimCasey: Iīm not sure; spoke to him briefly about a week ago about a new Koss article in a UK guitar magazine...Heīs playing in a band now...still early on and getting sorted I believe... JimCasey: heīs a nice guy... lucypiller: yes he is I agree..... lucypiller: Should get some more people logging on in the next few mins lucypiller: let me grab a nice cuppa tea brb JimCasey: Cool....I just noticed the announcement of this chat today, cuz I was poking around on AllrightNow.com and that other Kossoff Forum... JimCasey: Glad I noticed it... JimCasey: ok guest414 enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' lucypiller: Hello guest ingrid enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' ingrid: hi, Iīm Ingrid from Austria lucypiller: Guest do you want to log out and come back with a name? JimCasey: welcome! lucypiller: Hello Ingrid my friend JimCasey: Hello Ingrid - welcome! lucypiller: Ok I see some people logging on now on my IM lucypiller: so slowly the room will grow Debs enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' lucypiller: Hows things in Austria Ingrid,? lucypiller: Hello Debs Debs: Debra- Ventura, Calif. Debs: Hi Lucy, hello everybody JimCasey: hello Debs lucypiller: cool, Deb I actually forgot to add the location Debs: Hi Jim ingrid: still snowcovered in Linz, but still hoping for spring lucypiller: oh really its still snowy, I heard it was pretty heavy Ingrid Debs: I have all the windowīs open here, a beautiful day lucypiller: When all our guest arrive Rich UK enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' lucypiller: I shall ask everyone to say where they are from OK lucypiller: Hello Rich Rich UK: hello everyone Debs: Sounds beautiful Ingrid ingrid: BTW Lucy, my dog is called Berti!! JimCasey: Hello Rich - welcome lucypiller: so its a HE Ingrid Debs: Hi Rich Rich UK: thank you ingrid: Debs, itīs awful, never had 3 months of snow without a break!!! ingrid: Yes, Lucy, feel more comfortable with a he anyway lucypiller: Jaz was here earlier he logged on to make sure he knew how to do it lucypiller: he will be back shortly lucypiller: Howard is also not here even though his name is up Debs: Lovely to look at and very clean air lucypiller: we shall just wait for them to arrive HMLEESE: IīM HERE Debs: How you feeling Lucy? Rich UK: I donīt think I will ask any questions, i will just watch other convoīs ingrid: so Jaz isnīt into computers as well as our hero, Mr PR?? JimCasey: Hello, welcome! Debs: Hi Howard lucypiller: Ingrid JR isnt really into them either Debs: Debra from Ventura, California lucypiller: he is busy singing and writing HMLEESE: HALLO ALL Mover777 enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' lucypiller: Hello Howard Welcome to this special day of KOSS Rich UK: hello hmleese Debs: great news that lucypiller: Would everyone like to tell Howard where you are speaking from Sasha-Rostov enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Rich UK: anyone here from the UK?? lucypiller: Lucy - Atlanta Mover777: hello Rich UK: Richard - North East England ingrid: Ingrid from Linz, Austria JimCasey: Iīm in Boston Mover777: South Carolina lucypiller: Thank you Howard for joining us on this day, Rich UK: I am from Newcastle - many people think Freeīs career started here. Although I wouldnt know, as I am only 16 Sasha-Rostov: Rostov-on-Don, Russia Debs: Howard? Tell us about the man that made your guitars? lucypiller: Hello Sasha from Russia Sasha-Rostov: Hi Lucy and everyone! Mover777: Howard, saw the LITTLE QUEEN and DOG & BUTTERFLY tours in Charlotte, NC. Great shows. Debs: Hi Sasha JimCasey: Hi Sasha, welcome! JimCasey: Weīve got quite world-wide collection of Kossofff devotees here :-) beracey enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Sasha-Rostov: Hi Debs, have you changed you name as well? Mover777: Barb, tell them where you are from. Debs: So nice! DaveC enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' ingrid: Oh, the usual bunch of Free addicts are gathering right now Mover777: Mr. Clayton! smithers enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' beracey: hello all, I am from Texas Sasha-Rostov: DC!!! DaveC: Hi everyone JAZLOCHRIE enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' smithers: county durham england guest414: hello david Debs: Hello lucypiller: OK Jaz is back too Rich UK: can someone honestly tell me whether Kossoff, Kirke, Tetsu and Rabbit is worth buying?? Sasha-Rostov: Hi David! Mover777: Rich - YES IT IS JimCasey: welcome DaveC: Iīm on the worlds slowest computer here, so this should be fun ! HMLEESE: love Charlotte Debs: Hi Jaz JimCasey: yes, definitely JAZLOCHRIE: I donīt understand the technology.... Rich UK: thanks mover sarabar enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: Hey there DaveC JAZLOCHRIE: Hello Debs guest414: guest 414 is actually carl dunn, I couldnīt figure out how to log on.. sorry Mover777: I wish it would get a deluxe remaster w/extra tracks one day. DaveC: Hi Jim ingrid: So if Jaz isnīt into computers, Lucy, do you have to do all the typing?? HMLEESE: hallo lucy sarabar: Hi Sarah from England lucypiller: AS WE DO HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THIS IS WHAT I SUGGEST. HOWARD WAS THE FIRST GUEST SO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR HOWARD PLEASE TYPE IT NOW , Debs: So glad youīre both here, so nice, we miss you on the road guys! JAZLOCHRIE: Haha....I can type DaveC: KKTR is my favourite album of all time, so Iīd say its worth buying! JimCasey: welcome Sarah Mover777: Howard - any contact any more with Roger Fisher? guest414: dave are you still an alice cooper fan? Rich UK: thanks david, a friend of mine offered me a first press vinyl, i will have to see if he has still got it Debs: Iīd like to know more about the man that made his giutars? DaveC: Sure, I love the original Alice band 1968 - 1974 sarabar: hi Lucy it seems a while since the boys and I were in Atlanta AND THANKS Jim for your welcome Mover777: Barb is a $1000-Dollar-Baby .....  HMLEESE: i saw roger a few months ago at the floyd rose guitar factory beracey: what?? smithers: hello it been ages since ive visited here guest414: Dave I still owe you a picture of alice--Carl Dunn Mover777: Did he EVER play on any album again after Heartīs split? HMLEESE: his new band is called "clever bastards" Mitch enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: I donīt have a question for Howard, but just a brief comment. He is one of the first well-known guitarists whom I learned was a fan of Kossī. I remember being a teenager, and reading an interview with Howard in which he mentioned Kossī vibrato and thinking "oh cool! Someone else out there loves this stuff as much as I do! Groovy...so thank you Howard. This wouldnīve been in the mid-80s.. DaveC: Hi Carl, Yes you do!! ingrid: Howard, iIs being a guitar player for Paul Rodgers always on the verge of being compared to Koss? smithers: and looks ive picked a good night to start again DaveC: How did the book do? lucypiller: OK I would like to officially welcome our guests Howard Leese - Jaz Lochrie and David Clayton, and now let the chat take over Mover777: I am unfamiliar with Jaz - can someone clue me in?  JimCasey: Jaz played in Paul Rodgersī solo bands and later bad Co ingrid: Mover, you canīt be sserious!! JimCasey: Bad Company, sorry Mover777: ah, thank you guest414: Dave if you still have my email address send me a mailing address and Iīll send you something Rich UK: lol Mover777: nope-sorry lucypiller: Jaz Lochrie is an ex member of Bad Company plays bass and also appeared on many of Paul Rodgers solo cd including NOW and THEN DaveC: Jaz plays on Now and Electric and the live albim from Lorerley ingrid: merchants of cool, you should own the DVD! guest414: Dave rutdelge is in a bit of a stall at the moment sarabar: and Iīve seen him with our"guy" ! ie PR lucypiller: Howard can you please tell everyone a little about your upcoming CD???? HMLEESE: the last show i did with paul was in seattle, and after the show, a guy came up and said "you were scaring me, it seemed like you were challeling Koss". JimCasey: Nice! Rich UK: brilliant JimCasey: Thatīs what Iīd call getting "in the zone" JimCasey: :-) HMLEESE: i try to play his stuff as close as i can DaveC: Of the songs he played with Paul Rodgers which did Howard enjoy the most? lucypiller: Carl Dunn you are the Guest 414? smithers: but ive found its hard to even to get koss tone is it the same for you or what? JimCasey: Thatīs a great approach Howard and one that I can appreciate. Iīve seen loads of guitarists mangle All Right Now Ennio TO enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: Hey there Ennio JimCasey: Welcome Ennio TO leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Sasha-Rostov: Welcome Ennio! lucypiller: Hello Ennio HMLEESE: as paul has been with queen , iīve had time to do some recording lucypiller: Hi David sorry I didnt even see you there Mover777: for me, Howardīs coda to "Barracuda" is a supreme piece of Heartīs musical rep. guest414: Lucypiller--thatīs the rumor--actually I couldnīt figure out how to log on as Carl Dunn JimCasey: I love Kossī approach to chord voicing, itīs brilliant ingrid: what about the famous vibrato? Easy for you or a toughie? Rich UK: yeah, did find that vibrato came naturally, or did it take practice? lucypiller: May I just mention CARL DUNNs photos are amongst the photos shown at the QPR shows in the USA on the big screen Rich UK: oh right, they are great carl guest414: howard what is the single most unique characteristic of Paulīs guitar style HMLEESE: the vibrato requires you to tremble you entire forearm. the hand comes off the neck a little Debs: is there anything howard canīt play well! I think not! JimCasey: Kossī vibrato is just amazing..especially on the Fire & Water and Highway records... Ennio TO enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Rich UK: i do take my hand from the neck, but watching koss, it looks like he doesnīt Mover777: It was pretty heavy on SOBS and FREE, too. Ennio TO leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Sasha-Rostov: Exactly Jim DaveC: Carlīs book is fantastic. Anyone who doesnīt have it should get it JimCasey: The solo on "Remember" is one of the All Time Greatest Solos in the History of Great Solos! :-) lucypiller: Jaz - Can you tell us what your projects have been lately?? JimCasey: On some bits it sounds like a sax (his phrasing and tone) Rich UK: so is Iīll be creepinī guest414: Thanks for the compliment Rich Mover777: ... and "Free Me" Sasha-Rostov: For instance Koss is unique for the melody of his solos Rich UK:  ingrid: but the best way to listen to Koss is on songs of yesterday via ipod, there you can hear him perfectly JAZLOCHRIE: Iīm working on an album with Bucket at the moment....start tracking in April Sasha-Rostov: And what about TIME AWAY? JimCasey: Cool, Jaz.. lucypiller: Jaz is their a name for the band? And who else is in the band? JAZLOCHRIE: Demos are nearly all done and today we booked the studio....provisionally Mover777: thanks DC for salvaging that longer take for the boxed set - sounded like an entirely new song HMLEESE: the economy is so amazing, at times he plays so little, but that gives each note meaning Mitch: I think Iīll listen to Iīll be creepin sarabar: Jaz any English dates? Rich UK: yeah, i would come along to any english tour dates lucypiller: Howard is releasing his own cd shortly right Howard, please tell us a little about it ..... Mitch: Iīll join you Richard JimCasey: Yes, I agree Howard, Kossī phrasing was great, and very vocal...he and Rodgers just played off each other...it must be a joy to do that with Rodgers now. sarabar: Rich UK where are U?! JimCasey: Cool HMLEESE: iīve got 10 songs, some finished, some in progress JAZLOCHRIE: No name as of yet...the album is provisionally called "guitars Beers and Tears. Me Bucket and Gary the drummer from Thunder Mover777: Can you tell us who the drummer is? Rich UK: sarabar - I live in the North East, near Newcastle Ennio TO enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Rich UK: sarabar - yourself? JAZLOCHRIE: Singers are all different... HMLEESE: iīve done demos of "Be my Friend" and "Long way down" by BSC sarabar: AH! I am in the south west! How are your wings for flying?! Ennio TO: Hey looks like iīm in this time! Rich UK: be my friend has to be one of the most emotional koss songs ever JAZLOCHRIE: Canīt say who they are at the moment till everything is tied up...but you will know them lucypiller: That sounds super Howard, I am looking forward to hearing them JimCasey: Jaz, Iīde be curious about your take on Andy Fraserīs work with Free...I very rarely meet any bass players here in the US who even know who he is... Rich UK: i would travel to see any good musician sarabar: Jaz, I have seen Thunder lots! JimCasey: welcome ennio HMLEESE: i did a version of "Somewhere" from West Side Story DaveC: That sounds good Howard, would love to hear them Ennio TO: thanx Jim JimCasey: Cool, Howard.. HMLEESE: the rest is original Debs: Hi Ennio Mover777: I liked Todd Rundgrenīs version of that on "Wizard/True Star" JimCasey: Ennio, did you see I made a pizza? Ennio TO: hey Deb! JimCasey: ...just kidding... Rich UK: sarabar - my wings are fine for flying, i would travel to see a musician i greatly admired Ennio TO: he he Jim.......I just had one! JAZLOCHRIE: Andy has a very unique style....very funky and melodic...so often the bass player goes unnoticed but he certainly WAS noticable....love īim JimCasey: LOL! ingrid: So Hoard, when and where are you going to promote your new cd on tour? Any plans for rejoining with PR later this year? Debs: we have some great new music to look foward to then lucypiller: I have just started to build up a new Paul Kossoff site, Ennio TO: Hi Lucy, did you get the pix? lucypiller: so do keep checking it for updates smithers: so jazz there been a few rumours of a bad company reunion after rodgers has finished touring with queen is there any truth in them? Mover777: Howrd - any chance on the Wilsonīs sitting down with an archivest like David and putting out a boxed set on the order of "Songs of Yesterday" ? lucypiller: Yes I did - awesome really Ennio TO: good Rich UK: lucy - oh, a new Koss site, canīt wait JimCasey: Cool, thanks Jaz. I agree - Andy is/was in Free just amazing...the way heīd leave spaces like on the Free At Last record lucypiller: well its up on ARN - Im just updating it HMLEESE: iīve heard we start up again in june JimCasey: thatīs excellent sarabar: Rich uk , I am an admirer and fan of PR et al, not a musician, Debs: Canīt wait for that Lucy JAZLOCHRIE: The ball is totally in Paulīs court....as you might guess. We wewre supposed to continue touring in 03 and he halted it....who knows Rich UK: sarabar - oh right, sorry, where abouts in the south west do you live?? Arthur enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' lucypiller: Hey Arthur - how ya doing? ingrid: Jaz, did you just borrow Gary from Thunder or did he quit there? Arthur: Hi Lucy, very well thanks JimCasey: I was impressed by the few bits of Queen/PR Iīd heard. His voice...still incredible lucypiller: OK as we have more people on now please once again tell everyone where you are from lucypiller: Lucy - Atlanta guest230 enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: Jim - Boston MA USA Earth ingrid: Ingrid -Linz/Austria JimCasey: :-) sarabar: sarabar #south west england Arthur: From the UK Rich UK: Richard - NE england guest414: 414 aka Carl Dunn Dallas TX Debs: Debra- Ventura, California DaveC: England but presently in Maryland!! HMLEESE: howard leese- guitar - paul rodgers band-malibu Ennio TO: Ennio Toronto JAZLOCHRIE: Gary is still with Thunder....they are also recording pretty soon....he found a window for us....Jimmy Copley is on standby... guest230 leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: Jimmy is a drumming GOD smithers: the wider opinion around my friends and family is the tour with queen was not great i found he was pushed to the back alot for the sake of self indulgence on the part of may and tailor Mover777: David Clayton - can you tell us how much acoustic on the Free albums is Koss and how much is Andy - roughly? Mick - Yorks enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Rich UK: DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY FREE CONVENTIONS GOING ON IN THE UK?? JimCasey: good question... Mick - Yorks leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' lucypiller: I dont think their is a Convention this year Arthur: Jim Copley is a great drummer DaveC: All Andy up to FAL HMLEESE: carl, i want to use some of your shots for my cd beracey leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' sarabar: to Rich uk, I live near Bath, met Lucy in Atlanta last August, JimCasey: On the first record, I believe the acoustic on Over the Green Hills is Andy, no? Mover777: oh really? interesting DaveC: Andy is a great guitar player Rich UK: same about no conventions, seems like a prime year as well JimCasey: Not positive... Mover777: I think on that song itīs PR with one finger. JimCasey: which finger>? Mover777: lol JimCasey: Sorry, just kidding DaveC: PR did play some acoustic sarabar enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JAZLOCHRIE: Dave ...Jimmy said to say hello guest414: Howard you are welcome to use anything I have sent you, I may have some other things as well lucypiller: Maybe next year I can sort something out with some of the tribute bands in the UK Mover777: Well he and Koss interacted on those quieter songs very very well. JimCasey: I read in the FAS it was his middle finger (itīs a Middlesborough thing...) lucypiller: JIM CASEY????? lucypiller: sorry Jim JimCasey: Yes? lucypiller: thought I read Jim Copley lol Rich UK: is it possible to send private messages on this caht room?? HMLEESE: a couple on that proof sheet are cool. guest414: I was in a bit of a hurry when I gave those to Aubry. I may have other that I like better Rich UK: any FREE/koss tributes people suggest going to see?? I am going ot see Freeway in a couple of weeks Mover777: I hope Mushroom/Portrait-CBS still have the original masters of Heartīs early work so that one day a good box set could be done with alternate takes, et al. ingrid: Howard, have you actually ever met Koss? Arthur: Jaz - are you still involved with mama mia in London, last time I saw you was there a couple of years or so back lucypiller: Freeway are fabulous Mover777: They need to come to SC some time. Rich UK: SC?? sorry for my ignorance Sasha-Rostov: Lucy, whatīs happen with Freed? Mover777: South Carolina - USA HMLEESE: Free came to l.a. opening for CREAM. one show i wish iīd seen JAZLOCHRIE: Hi Arthur....yes...thatīs a gig I run in London and when I am not doing anything else I pop in there....I have 6 other guys that cover it for me lucypiller: I have no idea, suppose they have no gigs right now Mitch: Freeway should be good like Richard DaveC: I was in Winson Salen NC last week!! JimCasey: Howard, do you mean Blind Faith? Mover777: What were you doing over there? Sasha-Rostov: Thanks, but I thiught they split JimCasey: I think Free opened a tour for BF and Delaney and Bonnie Rich UK: yeah, they seemed to follow Clapton DaveC: Visiting friends. Went to Pilot mountain. It was very cool lucypiller: By the way TODD SMITH is due to come on but he will be very late, he had something come up and he said he would log on as soon as he gets home Mover777: Pilot mntn is interesting. JimCasey: Cool... HMLEESE: i thought it was Cream, anyway, I never saw them JimCasey: Anyone know how to play "Oh I Wept" by the way? DaveC: Free were bottom of the bill with Blind Faith. 25 minute sets Mover777: Jim - yes, put in the cd, hit track 2 Mover777: ingrid: opening for BF was really a desastrous experience for Free Rich UK leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: LOL! DaveC: But a standing ovation in Denver! Mover777: Well that tour was not a musical success for BF, either, for that matter. JimCasey: Iīll try that...<Jim gets the piss taken out of him by Mover777> LOL! lucypiller: David, I spoke to Simon Kossoff about the Kossoff fund and he said it was now closed. Can we not open a new one??? guest1 enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: Who is Simon Kossoff? Mover777: brother? guest414: I saw Free open for Rod Stewart in Memphis Tenn Sasha-Rostov: Jim, Mike Jarvis plays Oh I Wept very well. But he kept that as a well-kept secret. ingrid: Was Koss at any time aware of his way to hell or did he live in denial what was happening to him because of his drugabuse? JimCasey: Hi Sasha, thatīs interesting,...who is Mike Jarvis? DaveC: Sure but what Iīve been doing is giving any donations to the hospice charity as thatīs where David gererally put them anyway Sasha-Rostov: Mike Jarvis is Led Zep Too (ex-Juicy Lucy, Freed) guitarist Mover777: DaveC - any chance at all of (whoever owns the rights) for the complete Free IOW set to be released on DVD some day? JimCasey: I just havenīt really sat down and tried to figure it out note-for-note...today would be a good day for that, actually! :-) JimCasey: oh cool, thanks Sasha! guest1 leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: Iīm looking into that as we speak! Mover777: VERY cool Rich UK enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: I have the "dedicated to Koss" Free laser but it only wets the appetites. Rich UK leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: There may not be more material BUT we might be able to do multiple camera angles Mover777: yeah, Andy is almost cut out of most of the movie - sad. JimCasey: Oh cool! Youīre taking video/DVD? DaveC: All three cuts, Koss camera.... YES PLEASE!! smithers leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: it was like cam-hard right lucypiller: Howard - Do you have any upcoming shows this year? DaveC: DVD ingrid: Dave, then please donīt forget any b-roll activities!! DaveC: Andy camera also DaveC: There were 7 cameras total Mover777: Itīs always amazing to watch Free live and try to figure out how Kirke is doing what heīs doing - itīs deceptive. DaveC: The youīll be able to watch the Kirke camera and work it out! Mover777: JimCasey: One of the things that I always wished would be released is a video of Free in a small club/theatre. On the Best of Free video - including the IOW, I never thought any of the video released captured them in their natural enviornment or at their "best." But that said, I would welcome any official release of the rest of their IOW set.. HMLEESE: Iīve heard we start on june 2nd, 3 shows in june Mover777: Jim - the Granada TV material is close to that. DaveC: Iīd have to agree that the film there is does them no justice but its all there is lucypiller: I am amazed to read about how many young bands influenced on FREE. I get emails each week of a new band who plays the FREE style Mover777: maybe if we take Lucyīs pics and fast-slide them real quick with a live Free soundtrack? JimCasey: mover - which bits are the Grenada TV parts? Mick - Yorks leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: Fire & Water? Mover777: the ones of them playing in front of the tv audience Mover777: they do Iīll Be Creeping and Song of Y. DaveC: NICE lighting on the Granada show huh! JimCasey: Oh yes...I know what you mean now...yes, youīre right, those are good performances, I agree. Arthur: Lucy, I do a lot of stuff with school age bands these days and Iīm constantly amazed at their reference points these days, Free very much to the fore DaveC: Full studio flood Mover777: yes and there is supposedly more material for that, too !!!!! JimCasey: Yeah, a bit more suble lighting would have been better JimCasey: Yeah... lucypiller: I suppose you all have seen the video footage on these video websites of the Free shows from either TV or Isle of Wight Mover777: probably a limitation of videotape in that era Mover777: and the promos JimCasey: What was the Fire & Water bit from? The band sounds great on that and Rodgers and Koss are KILLING on that version DaveC: Not so actually. The French show Pop 2 was much better Mover777: one of them comes from a German TV thingie Mitch: How amazing are the soloīs and break on Kossīs behalf on "Iīm a Mover" on the Live cd?! Mover777: with the psychedelic affects JimCasey: The miming stuff on Top of the Pops is funny (DC had a funny bit about this in the book) but Rodgersī live vocal sounds great lucypiller: I honest think we need a band to tour with FREE exclusive music- DaveC: That stuff is German, from BEAT CLUB JimCasey: Sign me up... JimCasey: :-) ingrid: Jaz, are you from Scotland? It seems to be so when listening to the merchants of cool interviews Mover777: Howard, I seem to remember you soloing during the show when yaīll did the cover of Nilssonīs song - am I remembering right? JimCasey: I know some musicians from TX who are big Free fans ingrid: Just suggested to PR to team up with Simon and Tetsu and to perform only!!! Free songs Mover777: letīs not forget that Lynryd Skynyrd were heavily into Free. JimCasey: yes, thatīs true - I just read a book on LS JAZLOCHRIE: Hi Ingrid.....oh yes....a good scotch egg....still got my accent? Sasha-Rostov: Foreigner as well DaveC: Gary is a huge Kossoff fan JimCasey: and their producer Al Kooper was as well...of course lucypiller: Would it be cool to have an ALL STAR band covering FREE Songs - with artists performing like. Paul Rodgers Simon Kirke Howard Leese, Jaz Lochrie,Geoff Whitehorm - All the players JimCasey: yes! Mover777: "Simple Man" could have fit on a Free album ingrid: brilliant idea, Lucy Mover777: and Rabbit ! lucypiller: yes and Rabbit lucypiller: Name the tour FREE AT LAST TOUR Arthur: Where abouts are you from in Scotland Jaz? I met you on princeīs edinburgh back on the Now tour JimCasey: Free influenced loads of bands... Arthur: Iīd buy a ticket or two... DaveC: Check out Cry Of Love for a FREE influence Mover777: they are from around here Mover777: SC / Georgia JAZLOCHRIE: From Paisley Arthur...by Glasgow airport.....princeīs....? DaveC: Raleigh NC Mover777: used to play at the Catīs Cradle in Chapel Hill DaveC: Thatīs right Arthur: Princes Street...sorry! I was decked out in my suit but looking forward to Usher Hall gig that night JimCasey: Many singers influenced by Rodgers...how could you not be? Mover777: I am still amazed that a bunch of teens could produce so mature a work as Tons. Itīs an awesome album. JAZLOCHRIE: I donīt remember Usher Hall....but the Barrowlands gig is maybe THE best gig I have ever experienced....Paul says it comes close for him too JimCasey: Iīll second that lucypiller: Incase you didnt see the news on my site folks I have now printed an Allrightnow T shirt. We are just sorting out the p & p but the shirt costs just $15 so do look out for it OK Arthur: I was at the Barrowlands too, best gig ever for me Ennio TO: A lot of people are still covering FREE tunes, Govīt mule with Mr. Big, Joe Bonamassa Walk In My Shadow..... JAZLOCHRIE: Anyone got a bootleg? JimCasey: ah yes... HMLEESE: put me down for 2 shirts DaveC: Barrowlands had an awesome audience but YORK was better musically JAZLOCHRIE: of Barrowlands? DaveC: Yes Iīll mail you one Arthur: donīt know, Iīve never found one, but Iīd like to hear it, was a very special night ingrid: guess the instruments can sound like Free, but what about the voice? JAZLOCHRIE: York was more poshe...Corn Exchange? Mover777: Did anybody shoot Free on film during their Aussie tour (Highway era)? DaveC: More audience than band !! Mover777: drat DaveC: Yes there is film but we canīt find it JimCasey: Wow! JimCasey: that would be amazing... JimCasey: the last gig? JAZLOCHRIE: You mean the band werenīt posh....aaaawww Mover777: I like the pics from that tour in the HL book - they look really tight. DaveC: Sydney was filmed, in part at least JimCasey: They look really good JimCasey: wow... DaveC: Look in Heavy Load and youīll see the cameraman at the front Arthur: Didnīt get toYork on that tour, just Glasgow and Edinburgh, Edinburgh was a bit more reserved JAZLOCHRIE: Do you not have a Barrowlands gig Dave? DaveC: Yes I have it JAZLOCHRIE: Mate....good quality? Arthur: Is it good quality DaveC: Edinburgh suffered from the Den of LOW Volume! DaveC: Its okay but the audience drown the band Arthur: thatīs the way it was! Mover777: Iīd like a boot of Kirke/Koss covering the Hendrix tunes in their private jams! JAZLOCHRIE: I shoulda frisked you.... DaveC: I didnīt tape it so that wouldna have helped Mike Martin enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Arthur: Nice to talk to everyone, good luck with the new projects, talk soon Lucy, bye DaveC: Paul frisked me at Liverppol, remember? JimCasey: LOL! JAZLOCHRIE: Thatīs what I meant.... lucypiller: Helli Mike martin Arthur leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: Welcome Mike Martin lucypiller: Super to see you DaveC: He found...... DaveC: my phone !! Mike Martin: Hey Lucy Mick - Yorks enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JAZLOCHRIE: Wasnīt it Bristol? lucypiller: Mike Martin for those who dont know him is the lead guitarist of FOZZY and the DUKE Mike Martin: Just wanted to drop in for a minute while I take a break DaveC: Nah, at the bar in the Cavern before the show Mover777: is that one or two bands? lucypiller: two different bands Mike Martin: two seperate bands with some of the same members Chuck-Balto enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Sasha-Rostov: Hi Chuck! Chuck-Balto: hello all JimCasey: welcome! Ennio TO: Hi Chuck Mover777: I have to go see in UNC is going to get beat - brb. Mick - Yorks: Jaz, thanks for the Bad Company gig at the Barbican at York, you were all amazing Mover777: if^ lucypiller: If you wish to check out Mikes music see his profile at http://fozzyrock.com/Mike_commentary.htm lucypiller: Later though not now lucypiller: lol Mick - Yorks: can i ask what happened to Kossīs guitars ? Chuck-Balto: hello Ennio JimCasey: howard, have you played any of of the (fairly new) Gibson Chambered "Cloud 9" Les Paul Historic guitars? I have two and theyīre amazing intruments...sort of like a cross between a Les Paul and a 335... Mike Martin: I had to break some of the MP3 links on my site as they were demos of songs that are going to be released this year. JAZLOCHRIE: Thanks Mick....did we play there a couple of times or just once? Mike Martin: Iīll be putting up album samples in the next few weeks ingrid: Jaz, what was is that really got in the way of proceeding with BadCo? Personal reasons or something else? Mick - Yorks: It was the last gig before the Labour Party thing, in fact i think it was the last official BC gig lucypiller: Jaz when we saw you at the Guitar show last year Mike Martin was performing there too and you two were supposed to meet up. But it didnt happen HMLEESE: saw one at the namm show, very cool. my HML guitars are chambered JimCasey: Koss had several guitars - they all ended up in different places...DC had a very thorough piece in one of the Koss Anniversary issues a few years back... JimCasey: Oh cool Howard. Do you build those yourself or is it a signature line? Sorry Iīm not familiar with them... DaveC: Issue #102 I thibn DaveC: think Mick - Yorks: Where can i read that Dave ? DaveC: You need to get the back issue. FAS details are on Lucyīs site Mick - Yorks: Thank you Dave JAZLOCHRIE: We were on a roll Ingrid and were supposed to regroup after a break....but Paul changed his mind.....I think he got tired and kept putting it off.....then there were other commitments and it lost itīs steam....shame DaveC: That issue coveras JimCasey: Mick, Iīd written about this once on the Les Paul Forum, referencing the FAS article and other misc. sources. Iīm sure you can find it by searching there as well... lucypiller: http://www.allrightnow.com/fws/fas/fassubuk.htm lucypiller: FAS Magazine DaveC: That issue covers 99% of the guitars JimCasey: Yes, itīs very well-done JimCasey: Thereīs some UK magazines that have done pieces on Kossī guitars as well (these are referenced in the FAS issue) Mick - Yorks: Thanks Lucy DaveC: IF ANYONE CAN TELL ME CORRECTLY WHAT PAUL KOSSOFFīS FAVOURITE DRINK WAS DURING 1975 IīLL SEND THEM A CD PRIZE!! JAZLOCHRIE: Sorry I missed you Mike Mover777: chocolat Yoo-Hoo ? JAZLOCHRIE: water lucypiller: Carl Dunn did you manage to see that band I recommened if so were they OK? Mike Martin: Thatīs all right Jaz, thereīs always next time! Mick - Yorks: Tizer ingrid: al least water with tons of mandrake DaveC: Well I guess it has water in it!! Mick - Yorks: lol JimCasey: Creme-De-Mint? JimCasey: or something like that? DaveC: Oh, we have a winner!! JimCasey: Menthe? Mick - Yorks: Absinthe ingrid: absinth would be suitable DaveC: Creme De Menthe JimCasey: I donīt know why I know that...LOL! Mover777: Cherry Kool-Aid lucypiller: oh thats right now I remember JimCasey: Can I ...pick my prize DC? <grin> guest414 leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: If you read the FAS it was in there JimCasey: LOL! JimCasey: thatīs probably it...or the Heavy Load bit... DaveC: During the John Martyn tour some poor roadie was sent out in the middle of the night to find some lucypiller: Hello Chuck when did you arrive? JimCasey: Speaking of John Martin... DaveC: he ended up knocked on residental doors DaveC: and some guy gave up a bottle when he was told Paul Kossoff needed it !! DaveC: True story JimCasey: MOJO magazine had a hilarious article about the John Martyn/Kossoff/Danny Thompson gig last year... Mick - Yorks: great story JimCasey: anyone see that? Mover777: Lucy - Barb is having t-storms - she couldnīt stay online. Chuck-Balto: Lucy, a few minutes ago...just got off from work JimCasey: fistfights and bottles flying etc... Mover777: missed that one, Jim DaveC: I think I reprinted it in FAS 105 JimCasey: Iīll try to find it... JimCasey: oh cool! DaveC: The tour of drunks!! Mike Martin: I should probably run JimCasey: The one where Danny Thompson says to the interviewer "If youīre Chris Welch, Iīm going to F**ckinī Kill you!" LOL! Mick - Yorks: Am i right in thinking that i saw Koss once being interviewed on the Old Grey Whistle Test and he kept falling asleep ? lucypiller: Its so strange for me to hear all the stories about Paul, Its just when I knew him he was aways sober and never dopped. Well maybe high on smoke but not much else, I think I only saw him perfom once badly in 33 gigs ingrid: was southern comfort accompanying them? Mike Martin: I need to load in before it starts raining DaveC: When I interviewed JM at his home he got me so drunk all I could do was giggle! lucypiller: Mike are you playing tonight HMLEESE: gotta go too. bye all.. see you onstage JimCasey: Yeah I can imagine what you mean, Lucy....you knew him in the early period...the "good days" lucypiller: Howard THANK YOU for coming JimCasey: take care Howard. lucypiller: See you soon - shirts will get to you soon HMLEESE leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mike Martin: Lucy - Iīll try to log back in later and see if anyoneīs still hanging about DaveC: Koss was a little worse of wear on that show Mick - Yorks: Bye Howard , thank you ingrid: bye Howard, donīt forget about Europe!! JAZLOCHRIE leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mike Martin: no, just getting back in the studio after a late session last night at a different room JimCasey: DC, thatīs the gig that resulted in the JM record "Live At Leeds" correct? Mike Martin: take care guys! Mike Martin leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: The Mojo article refeers to that gig yes lucypiller: Thats so cool Mike came too, he is an awesome guitarist Mick - Yorks: Dave, has Tony Blair got īīHeavy Loadīī ? DaveC: Yes he has DaveC: But I didnīt send it too him Mick - Yorks: i thought he would, has he made any mention you know of ingrid: So DC how do you know then? Ennio TO: Lucy How is Barry doinī? DaveC: I believe PR gave him a copy JimCasey: Thatīs interesting.. DaveC: There is a picture with him and Paul. He is holding a copy Rich UK enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Rich UK leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: Barry Richmond? DaveC: Did anyone see the documentary about Tony Blair in college? Ennio TO: Richman Mick - Yorks: I missed that JimCasey: oh yes, sorry - Richman DaveC: He tried to īhireī Free to play lucypiller: Barry is super lucypiller: saw him last Wednesday he dropped into the Jam DaveC: They wanted to much and his quote was.... Rich UK enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: Lucy - that means the PM of GB has your pics! DaveC: WOW... FREE donīt come cheap..... DaveC: Priceless!! Mick - Yorks: lol JimCasey: Thatīs funny... JimCasey: Nothingīs Free in life.. lucypiller: lol that is way funny yes Rich UK: JimCasey - sorry I have been logging off by my computer but I have a TAB for Oh I Wept if you want, I can forward you a copy lucypiller: So Daivid how about coming down to visit me JimCasey: Hi Rich! Oh cool! beracey enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: Yes, please...my e-mail is jamesalancasey@hotmail.com Mick - Yorks: Dave, have you seen the BBC drama īLife on Marsī they have played two Free songs Mover777: wb Barb JimCasey: Thank you Rich! It is greatly appreciated! :-) DaveC: I have so many offers Lucy, and friends Iīve not seen for years. This year Iīm moving, so Iīm pretty tired up lucypiller: Which Mick from Yorks is here? Rich UK: Okay, i will send it in the next couple of days Sasha-Rostov: Rich, tab Iīd like to get the TAB too. Is there any chance? JimCasey: Awesome thank you! Mover777: Iīd like to see SOON I WILL BE GONE used in a film - it has a soundtrack feel to it. DaveC: Yea I saw some of that.Good series Mick - Yorks: Lucy i briefly met you at the Bad Compnay Sheffield gig DaveC: I have a question for all of you JimCasey: I can picture that... JimCasey: and Time Away too.. Mitch leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: yes DC Mover777: yes? DaveC: Does anyone know the film that features īOne For The Boxī in a scene at a college party? ged wiggy enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Rich UK: I heard All Right Now in a film, I believe it was last night - It was My Name Is Earl ken hill enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: I saew it once but lost the title JimCasey: Hmmmmm.... DaveC: Just for the Box sorry!! Mick - Yorks: Dont know that one Dave lucypiller: Hallo Ged where are you from? JimCasey: All Right NOw is in American Beauty if I remember correctly... lucypiller: Hello Ken JimCasey: But I could be wrong... Mover777: not ringing any bells, sorry JimCasey: Oh hey Ken!! JimCasey: Sorry DC, I have no idea... JimCasey: either Chuck-Balto: No, youīre correct....it is in American Beauty ken hill: Hi Lucy & James how you all doing? JimCasey: But Iīd love to see it JimCasey: Good Ken, nice to see you! JimCasey: Is it late over there in the UK by the way? DaveC: It was some dumb US college type movie. Iīd love to know what it was Rich UK: 9.30pm Chuck-Balto: It was used in an episode of My Name Is Earl the other night too Mick - Yorks: 9.30 Mover777: David C, have you ever seen a Page quote on Koss/Free? Heīs usually pretty talkative on guitarists, but while Iommi, Blackmore, Rossington, etc. are all on record I donīt ever remember hearing Pageīs comments. ken hill: And you. couldnīt miss this now could I? JimCasey: Cool... DaveC: They didnīt license the track so itīs unlisted in royalties.... naughty!! Ennio TO: Were they any left over tracks from KKTR? JimCasey: of course not! Koss! Mick - Yorks: Tony Iommi played with which band on the Rock and Roll Circus film ?? lucypiller: In about 25 mins time Todd Smith may turn up DaveC: Iīve never heard Jimmy talk about Koss Mover777: Tull JimCasey: Iīve never seen any Kossoff-related comments from Page, but I have seen pics of Page jamming with Bad Co on Led Zep tours Chuck-Balto: Jethro Tull Mick - Yorks: YES !!!!!! JimCasey: Iīm sure Page appreciated Koss JimCasey: Ritchie Blackmore loved Free Mover777: oh, you know he did JimCasey: as well DaveC: I did a KKTR with unreleased tracks but Island didnīt pick it up Mover777: Iīd just like to see it in print. Rich UK: who didnīt love FREE?? Mover777: Island should be kicked in the wobbles!!!!!!!!!!!!  (JimCasey: Thatīs a bummer DC DaveC: It was done after the album remasters JimCasey: Thank you DC for all the work on these releases. Chuck-Balto: Dave, any luck getting the Free BBC Sessions picked up? ken hill: I think DC has tried to over the years Mick - Yorks: I saw Tull last week DaveC: Five projects were īshelvedī after the albums came out Mover777: I thought all the BBC sessions that are existing are sprinkled on the remasters? JimCasey: I picked up that recent Chronicles 2-CD set...that is a really introduction to the uninitiated... Mick - Yorks: Is there any Free footage on DVD yet ?? DaveC: KKRT, BSC, Rabbit, FREE BBC, New Koss album. DaveC: Only bootleg right now, but there may be something coming JimCasey: I believe DC did the liner notes on the Chronicles set? Mover777: Maybe if you took it to Islandīs USA distributor? Mover777: btw, who IS that now that A&M went under? DaveC: I have more BBC. I was pushing for a 2CD set Mick - Yorks: Hope so Dave DaveC: USA have no interest in Free Mover777: grrrrrrrrrrr JimCasey: Thatīs true unfortunately... beracey: who says? DaveC: They just turned down a new project ken hill: Dave, whatīs this new Koss album? JimCasey: no one here knows about them... DaveC: Island USA do Chuck-Balto: unbelievable!! Mover777: he means the record company, Barb beracey: oh DaveC: We were going to put a new one together but Island pulled out jenny enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: All Right Now gets played like once a minute on some station in the USA every day jenny leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: The unreleased tentatively-titled "Love Is The Lord"? lucypiller: Hello Jenny lucypiller: welcome to the KOSS CHAT DaveC: Nah, that doesnīt exist JimCasey: Was there any material from that or was that just a title? DaveC: Two tracks Mick - Yorks: What did Eric Clapton think of Koss ? DaveC: Taken Hold Of Me was one of them JimCasey: wow, cool beracey: they have used All Right Now in commercials Mover777: EC loved Kossoff. Mover777: asked him to teach him tremolo JAZLOCHRIE enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: A track called īIīm Oneī may be released later this year ingrid: Well, tell Island, thereīs also Europe on the map! Mover777: swapped guitars with him JimCasey: I would bet that Clapton appreciated Koss.. Thereīs the story about him asking Koss about his vibrato on the BF/Free tour lucypiller: Welcome back Jaz JAZLOCHRIE leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: from the LITL sessions Mover777: David, if Island wonīt bite, they should stand aside if Rhino or someone else will !!! JimCasey: welcome back Jaz Mick - Yorks: welcome back again Jaz Rich UK: yeah, teh Les Paul that Koss gave Clapton is lovely, I wish I could buy it DaveC: Thatīs difficult DaveC: Its hard for a compnay to license unreleased tracks JimCasey: I can imagine... Mover777: so far, from my experience, Rhino has released things from Atlantic and Mercury - not sure what the sub-licensing deal is Rich UK: btw, if anyone wished to add me to MSN - hedge_trimmer@hotmail.com JimCasey: it must be tought JimCasey: tough, sorry Mover777: does Simon have any rough jam private cassettes of him and Kossoff covering Hendrix tunes? Rich UK: What advert in the UK recently had Travellin Man as the theme tune?? was it car insurance?? Mick - Yorks: Jaz, can you give us any memories of what may have seemed strange gig for the Labour Party ? ken hill: If they donīt want to release them sell them DaveC: Iīm talking with Island presently about projects, so weīll see what happens Chuck-Balto: good luck with that, Dave Mover777: conjure up the ghost of Guy Stevens if you have to bring out the big guns! Rich UK: do you anounce things like this in the FAS DavidC???? ken hill: DC howīs the next FAS comning along? JimCasey: Best of luck DC and thank you for advancing these thing... DaveC: lol JimCasey: I mean things lucypiller: Dave if they need some photos - let me know DaveC: I will cover this in the FAS when Island green light things Rich UK: I must join the FAS DaveC: OK Lucy will do lucypiller: http://www.allrightnow.com/fws/fas/fassubuk.htm lucypiller: lol DaveC: Yes, you MUST Rich UK: lol DaveC: Iīm working on the new FAS but with moving house its a bit of a nightmare!! JimCasey: lucy is quick with the URLs Mover777: Blackmore said in a Guitar Player article that he wrote "Mistreated" as a homage to "Heartbreaker" JimCasey: yes, Iīve read that too sarabar leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: old GP from the 70s DaveC: Blackmore was always a huge FREE fan Mover777: yeah, around the time of LONG LIVE RīNīR Sasha-Rostov: Dave, are you moving from Bollborough? Rich UK: i never knew that, but I dont particulayly like Blackmore, except for Blackmores Kingdom lucypiller: Yes Jim I like to at least show the URL as we speak about them lucypiller: Dont forget their is a Paul Kossoff forum too folks DaveC: Thatīs my parents home. I live a little further away. Iīm moving south JimCasey: thatīs good - very helpful reference! lucypiller: http://kossoff.proboards28.com/index.cgi Mover777: DaveC, not sure you can talk about it, but whatīs the deal with Amazon cutting the sale price for HL ? (thatīs how I got my copy, btw - learned afterwards it wasnīt authorized) DaveC: So far as Iīm aware they still pay the same price from us DaveC: So itīs their loss!! Mover777: and my gain DaveC: We canīt drop the price as it costs a fortune to print ged wiggy: davec- the alternative version of come together in the morn on the tampa bootleg is it koss playing Mover777: I read that thing in two days non-stop Rich UK: lol DaveC: Thatīs why we had to do it ourselves Chuck-Balto: Dave, did you ever get around to a īsecond editionī? DaveC: Other wise it would have been paperback with 20 pix in the middle beracey: oh, ty Lucy for the info Mover777: yeah - mine is a 2nd edition ingrid: Dave, what about a successor to HL covering the story of BadCo? DaveC: We are on the second edition now Mover777: type-oīs all fixed Mover777: ????? JAZLOCHRIE enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: mine says itīs a 2nd ed ??? Mick - Yorks leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: I donīt want to spend years researching that. lucypiller: Welcome back Jaz !!!! JimCasey: I donīt want to be negative, but can I take a moment to say that I think that Steven Rosenīs book on Free/Bad Co blows? JAZLOCHRIE leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: Yea, most of them lol Mover777: maybe itīs a 2nd printing .. ? Mover777: Rosen is not a good writer. ken hill: Sucks as well Chuck-Balto: Itīs no Heavy Load but it was alright for a quick īreadī Rich UK: Is this in comparison to the HL book? or just in general?? lucypiller: I dont like it either Mover777: I have suffered him from Guitar Player, Record Review, the Black Sabbath book .... lucypiller: no comparison at all JimCasey: Thank you, so Iīm not the only one who thinks so... Ennio TO: I have to agree Jim lucypiller: HEAVY LOAD is the Bible of FREE Rich UK: I must read it, so I can put forward an opinion Chuck-Balto: It didnī DaveC: Awwww, you guys...... I couldnīt possibly comment Chuck-Balto: It didnīt flatter PR thatīs for certain!! JimCasey: his style is awful, he puts *himself* into the story, was disrespectful to David Kossoff, etc... Mover777: heīs very opinionated and letīs himself get carried away with a "fact" thatīs just an opinion JimCasey: I agree Heavy Load is fantastic Mover777: spot-on, Jim ingrid: blatantly superficial, very subjective, Rosen loves to listen to himself Rich UK: I never liek that JimCasey: Thank you DaveC: Yea the bit about David pissed me off. Andy refused too but whereīs the diss on him? JimCasey: Heavy Load speaks for itself DC - a labor of love. Thank you for that Mover777: We like the same bands, but he will cut a great track - he needs electroshock therapy, methinks. Chuck-Balto: To each his own....it doesnīt hold a candle to HL but how many books on Free and Bad Co are out there? ken hill: Whatīs Andyīs problem? DaveC: When I interviewed David for Heavy Load, no subject barred, he said he wanted it to be the last time he did that DaveC: It was VERY hard for him JimCasey: I was going to write Steven Rosen a nasty e-mail after reading that book, but then figured, whatīs the point? his head is so far up his arse... JimCasey: Wow... Mover777: I remember a letter to the Ed in GP where a guy wrote " ... but I wish youīd drop this Rosen character." lucypiller: Just to let you know folks this chat will be posted on my website. Just wanted you to know :-))) DaveC: lol JimCasey: Yeah... JimCasey: heīs awful Rich UK: great Lucy, i missed alot of it and will have to catch up JimCasey: sorry for bringing him up, I had to get that off my chest ingrid: weīre not afraid of posting our opinions here, are we? JimCasey: uh oh lucypiller: thats ok thats what we are here for JimCasey: LOL! Mover777: I see that Kirke wrote the forward - I wonder is he saw the final copy? Mick - Yorks enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' ken hill: Heīs probably going to sell a couple more books on the back of this chat DaveC: lol Rich UK: yeah, i feel like buying it now JimCasey: Right then, maybe I shouldīve let it go... Mover777: Iīll stick with Pete Frameīs family tree on BadCo for now. JimCasey: itīs crap, it reads like a 14-year old girl at her first rock concert... DaveC: Ugh, so many mistakes Rich UK: is there any FREE/Koss/Bad Co radio stations online???? Mover777: his writing has always been like that ken hill: No James itīs a good subject ingrid: no criticism, dave, i love HL, but it has taken me a week to go through all of it , am a non nativespeaker, so you may imagine... beracey leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: I wrote Pete Frame and asked him to correct a few things. He said he doesnīt do corrections!!! lucypiller: how cool that would be eh a FREE KOSS BAD CO radio station Mover777: lol ingrid: but a few more antics would have helped a bit, Chuck-Balto: Thatīs okay...I have an extra copy which Iīm going to unload on ebay Ennio TO: yeah 24 hrs Mover777: you know, thatīs how I first learned about the Free b-sides - was in agony trying to find them until the box set came out! Rich UK: I actually feel like starting a īgood; radio station - I dont think there is enough material for a FREE one only Rich UK: it would need other bands like Focus, Tull, canned heat etc Rich UK: oh, I am getting excited just mentioning it lucypiller: Radio ALLRIGHNTNOW ................Will give it some thought lol lucypiller: spelt arse upwards lol Sasha-Rostov: Lucy LOL Ennio TO: thatīs not too hard to set up lucy Debs: there you go Lucy!!! Mover777: I would pump out stuff like "Pony Blues" and "Focus II" lucypiller: OK who is going to join me eh Rich UK: yeah - it would be great, I dont know how easy/hard it is to set up an online radio station Debs: in your spare time eh?  Rich UK: Focus II is a great song lucypiller: very funny DEBS LOL Mover777: Getting the royalty rights would be very tough. DaveC: Golden Earring were also big Free fans incidently lucypiller: Just need help thats all Rich UK: I used to work at a local hospital doing radio, I got alot of compliments from older listeners Debs: Iīll join you! DaveC: Check out the ītogetherī album JimCasey: Really? Interesting... ingrid: Hey Rich, how do you come across those bands and songs at your tender age? Rich UK: Golden Earring are good, but no Focus in my opinion DaveC: All Day Watcher is very FREE Mick - Yorks: Every monday morning on the radio going to work īīMourning Sad Morningīī lol Debs: hereīs me right arm Rich UK: I would help out on an online station DaveC: Yea, but Focus were mad!! lucypiller: I shall make enquiries OK about a Radio Station on line Rich UK: lol, I went to see Jan Akkerman a month or so ago in Kendal, I believe he is the best guitarist alive today Ennio TO: need licensing online? Sasha-Rostov: Dave, Especially Hocus Pocus Mover777: yup Rich UK: I dont think licensing is needed lucypiller: well I will check beracey leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Rich UK: and then the following day, I went ot see wishbone ash - great weekend Mover777: heīs like Coltrane on guitar - very angular (electric anyway) Mick - Yorks: Wishbone Ash were at a local Working Mens Club here recently ken hill: You lot are making me feel old I saw all these in the bloody 70īs DaveC: Can everyone name their favourite LIVING guitarist? Mover777: I loved Ash. Rich UK: lol, I just feel out of place being 16 Mover777: probably Jeff Beck right now ken hill: Snowy White Rich UK: fav living guitarist.... hmmm..... DaveC: David Gilmore is probably mine Mover777: heīs kept up his chops Mick - Yorks leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Sasha-Rostov: David Gilmour Rich UK: Walter Trout is a particular fav of mine DaveC: Yea!! lucypiller: MIKE LOWRY- who has just joined Tinsley Ellis band Rich UK: I know I may be killed for this, but i dont rate Gimour that highly, maybe I havent heard enough of him Mover777: if John McLaughlin will quit screwing around and get back into line itīd be him henry2 enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' ken hill: Consider yourself killed DaveC: Isnīt Mike Lowry Will Smithīs character in Bad Boys!! lucypiller: Hi Henry 2 Mover777: Gilmour makes the most of what he has - doesnīt waste any notes. lucypiller: could be Dave DaveC: Gilmour is WAY underrated JimCasey: I just picked up a Snowy White record - recent, from 2004 or 2005 JimCasey: heīs great Mover777: I have liked everything heīs played. Rich UK: i wil have to listen to him more - Kelly Joe Phelps is really good Ennio TO: you guys saw R&R Fantasy with Simon Kirke? JimCasey: Eric Johnson is one of my favorites... DaveC: Very melodic and lyrical in his solos Mover777: yes Rich UK: Kenny Burrell ken hill: Heīs a class act and a really nice guy, I did a gig with him years ago Ennio TO: Eddie V.H. JimCasey: Also Brett Hartenbach Mover777: donīt go to him for Mahavishnu-like passages, but if you want lyricism well-thought out, heīs the man ingrid: ask me about vocalists, that would be easier... slash, Iīd say lucypiller: You all know Simons dvd (instructional Drumming) is coming out this summer Mover777: I would put Van Halen WAAAAY down the list Rich UK: Van Halen is good at what he does, but i dont like that Sasha-Rostov: Dave and Gilmour is a fine singer as well Mover777: heīs been doing the same licks on every song for how many years? DaveC: Ediie VH is a big Stray Dog fan funnily enough, Snuffy Waldens old band Rich UK: KOSS!!!!!! JimCasey: oh thatīs cool Lucy Ennio TO: or young Clapton LOL DaveC: VH used to do Stray Dog covers !! Rich UK: yeah, in the bluesbreakers Debs: eddie better have brushed up the chops, he was sadddddddddddddd on this last tour JimCasey: I would love to see an in--depth DVD from Simon,... lucypiller: yes I have seen some of it and its very cool indeed lucypiller: you will JimCasey: God Bless Simon Kirke! Mick - Yorks enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Rich UK: I will buy it, although I am not a drummer Ennio TO: Eddie used to do Bad Co covers too lucypiller: He did very well in Scotland shows Rich UK: my band do Free covers, we get alot of compliments about them too JimCasey: A friend of mine has a phrase - the "Simon Kirke Nudge" to describe that lick he does... beracey enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: << puts glue on Barb Rich UK: am i right that Kirke is going back to the Bein Inn?? ingrid: thought it was cancer of the tongue?? Debs: yes, heīs had alot of health problems, that & personal problems as well Mick - Yorks: How is the BB King and Gary Moore tour going ?? Mover777: he had a tumor removed in his skull Mover777: and hip surgery lucypiller: He is doing fine now though Simon Mover777: etc. JimCasey: Who? JimCasey: EVH? beracey: sorry, donīt mean to keep popping in and out, screen keeps freezing on me, I hope you have this all saved Mover777: VH lucypiller: Gary Moore? Debs leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: yes JimCasey: ah yes, thatīs a shame... Rich UK: i never realsied henry2 leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: I consider him a marginal player. JimCasey: who? Mover777: VH Rich UK: anyone like players like Doc Watson?? Mover777: if I want tapping Iīll go to Stanley DaveC: lol Rich UK: stanley? Mover777: Jordan JimCasey: well, I donīt know if Iīd say heīs a marginal player...but to each his own...I grew out of the VH-style thing, but EVH is a very good guitarist.. Mover777: the jazz guy Rich UK: oh right ALMayer-NC enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' JimCasey: ...in my opinion... Rich UK: for jazz, Jan Akkerman and Joe Pass are the best I think lucypiller: Hey I heard a very good guitarist with a Koss style let me see if I can find him ok lucypiller: brb DaveC: Eddie VH has depth, that makes him interesting. Heīs not just a īwiddlerī lucypiller: Hi Alan lucypiller: brbr Mover777: Grant Green, Barney Kessell, McLaughlin ...... JimCasey: Agreed DC ALMayer-NC: Hi! Mick - Yorks: Robert Cray is okay Rich UK: Andy Powell for originality (although it was only original 25 years ago) Rich UK: 35* JimCasey: The world is full of incredible guitarists... Mover777: and Martin Turner JimCasey: no shortage in any genre beracey: yes Rich UK: martin turner as in bassisT?? Mover777: oops Ennio TO: we mustīt forger Gary.......have you seen what a boost he gave to Cream songs with Baker and Bruce? Rich UK: ted? Mover777: no the other guitarist Mover777: Ted Mover777: yeah sorry DaveC: Iīd LOVE to see the Andy Powell / Laurie Wisefield Ash line up back together. Iīd buy a ticket for that! JimCasey: but Iīve never heard a guitarist who can reduce me to tears with one note...like Koss Mover777: (no relation) Rich UK: he is one hellish player, plays blues mainly now Mick - Yorks leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Ennio TO: like a younger meaner Clapton Rich UK: Dave C - there are rumours that line up will reunite at this years AshCON Mover777: I liked the BBM album alot. Rich UK: which btw, is in Chesterfield ken hill: That would be worth seeing DaveC: THAT would be VERY cool Mover777: Thereīs the Rub was a good album Rich UK: well, all the info is on the website ken hill: Just up the road from you DC Mover777: for that lineup DaveC: New England is better Rich UK: Pilgrimage was my favourite (although it wasnt wisefield) Rich UK: New engladn has outwabrd bound on it DaveC: Iīm in Silver Spring Maryland !! Rich UK: great Mover777: I prefer the Turner-Powell band Rich UK: me too mover Mover777: but Laurie was good, too ken hill: Jet Setter DaveC: I like that band too Rich UK: i think the new guitarist Muddy Manninen is great live DaveC: Just looking after the poorly here !! Rich UK: brings back the sounds of the Mk I lineup Mover777: I think Powell-Turner beat out Allman-Betts - and thatīs saying something! Rich UK: so, what music are people listening to right now?? DaveC: What about Peter Green Mover777: awesome guitarist! Mick - Yorks enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Rich UK: peter green is amazing aswell JimCasey: Well, I have to run...nice seeing you all (the folks I know already) and nice meeting you (the folks Iīve just met...) Take care and thank you for remembering Koss today Mover777: the Mac should have dropped the name post-Greene JimCasey: The Green God! JimCasey: :-) beracey leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Ennio TO: see ya Jim Rich UK: but i wnet to see him in london a few years back and he is quite reclusive, which wasnt good ken hill: Take it easy James email you soon. Rich UK: by jim DaveC: I like The Secret Machines. Going to see them when I get home Sasha-Rostov: DaveC, Peter Green is a good, but as far as I know he plays live badly now Mover777: Heīs a recovering psychotic .... thatīs expected. JimCasey: Thanks yaīll! Take care Mover777: at least he came back - Syd Barrettīs gone for good Rich UK: yeah, i really didnt like the atmosphere the time i went to see him JimCasey leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mick - Yorks leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: Yea, but check out the live stuff from Boston back in the day. Heīs ON FIRE!! Mover777: yup Mover777: too bad we didnīt get more "Then Play Onīs" out of him Rich UK: yeah ken hill: You donīt get many can produce a tone like that DaveC: 25 minutes of Rattlesnake Shake and heīs BURNING IT UP Sasha-Rostov: Dave C, Boston 1969? Mover777: and a long Green Manalishi Rich UK: there arent too many good bands out at the minute?? has musicianship declined??? Mover777: composing sure has DaveC: He was the only person that came close to Koss for me, in that style, but he paid the price DaveC: Yea, the 3CD set Mover777: itīs too bad he wasnīt treated early ken hill: Strange that it happens that way huh? DaveC: Boston tea Party Mover777: Koss too, for that matter - for his addictions Rich UK: yeah DaveC: Donīt own it.... GO BUY IT Sasha-Rostov: Dave C, I have this one. Great! Mover777: buy the Blue Horizon box, too Rich UK: the album that i recommend to you all is Beck Bogert and Appice Rich UK: i think its brilliand Mover777: and BBAīs live album, too Mick - Yorks enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Rich UK: yeah DaveC: For Beck Iīd go Blow By Blow or Wired Mover777: Beck is always brilliant ken hill: I saw them at a festival in Scotland in the 70īs they were amazing Sasha-Rostov: Dave C, I did listen to Jumping At Shadows 2CD yesterday - cool. ingrid: Rich, got that on vinyl (BBA) Rich UK: were they together long?? Mover777: one year Rich UK: ingrid - i do yeah but its not great quality Mover777: Bogart and Beck didnīt get along DaveC: Beck had be in tears at Shepheard Bush in 1999 Rich UK: oh right Rich UK: thats life DaveC: He was just outstanding Chuck-Balto: Beck is a moody fellow (right along with Blackmore) Mover777: yeah Rich UK: i saw a video of jeff beck playing with SRV - Beck played well but SRV was on top ged wiggy: listen to billy cobhams spectrum with tommy bolin great jazz fusion a line koss should have followed Mover777: really? Mover777: SRV said he thought Beck blew him away Mover777: I have that video. DaveC: Bolin, another BIG Kossoff fan Mover777: Koss playing fusion??? Rich UK: well, its just opinion ALMayer-NC leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Chuck-Balto: The stuff Beck puts out today is just techno-noise Rich UK: yeah Mover777: disagree Mover777: heīs putting out vital stuff lucypiller: Just to let you know the 1 hour chat is now reaching 2 and a half hours, and I am not hinting, the chat can keep going till you have had enough. :-) Chuck-Balto: disagree its noise DaveC: I think Jeff is out on a limb. I donīt like it all but heīs a real player Mover777: lol Rich UK: yeah, all musicians can experiment with different things Mover777: well , if he was doing "Ainīt Superstitious" now he wouldnīt be commercial ged wiggy: why not i always thought just for the box was in fusion mode and koss wrote it DaveC: Some of his whammy bar stuff is incredible Chuck-Balto: Heīs a real player but his choice of material doesnīt do anything for me these days....gimme Truth!! ken hill: Just for the box is one of my all time favīs Mick - Yorks: Will we ever see a Fraser/Rodgers composition or is that just pie in the sky ? Mick - Yorks: A new one that is lol Rich UK: a few bands that I like, that are modern(ish) are Primus, Kelly Joe Phelps and Kaiser Chiefs (the latter makes me sound like a teeny bopper) Mick - Yorks leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' ken hill: I canīt think of a single modern band that just wipes me out, any suggestions? Rich UK: Lucy - di you say you would post this chat on the ARN sitE? Chuck-Balto: There arenīt any....... Rich UK: music has changed, mainly due to the media - the customers follow what the radio play, and that is all hip hop and r+b now Rich UK: and when i say r+b, i dont mean chuck berry Chuck-Balto: hip hop = garbage Mick - Yorks enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Rich UK: exactly DaveC: Secret Machines are excellent, Interpol are good too Sasha-Rostov: Exactly, Chuck ingrid: main thing is to look good for the videos, jsut mimicking their instruments or abusing them Mover777: I canīt think of any modern band outside of that Icelandic fusion band that is out now that is doing anything much. Rich UK: i am not a fan of interpol, but i will check out secret machines DaveC: There are bands out there, but they arenīt FREE Ennio TO: Back......but gotta run, Later everyone. Ennio TO leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: nope Mover777: waaaah! Mover777: ken hill: LOL debandfred enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Chuck-Balto: I remember when they tried to pass Reef off as the next Free....HA!!!!! Mover777: but at least we have the albums Mover777: who is Reef? DaveC: check out their websire for musci downloads. www.thesecretmachines Rich UK: really? i never heard that, but it was clearly not true ken hill: SAme letters wrong notes Rich UK: thanks Dave Chuck-Balto: They were a UK band but they were NO FREE! DaveC: Forget Reef Rich UK: i didnt liek them ingrid: commercial aspects are more important than music and vocation Mover777: well, nobody can be - even "Heartbreaker" wasnīt the īrealī Free w/o Fraser in the band. Mover777: (good as it was) DaveC: Good debut album, dreadful live when Isaw them Rich UK leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mick - Yorks leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' debandfred leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' ged wiggy: if koss had got his act together free with tetsu and rabbit would have been awsome - opinion Sasha-Rostov: Reef has no own music style DaveC: agreed ALMayer-NC enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: they were a strong band, but they wouldnīt have had Andyīs writing aida enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: It would have been a different FREE, but no less good ingrid: Iīll try once more: was Koss aware of his way to hell or was he in denail of his problems with drugs, Dave? ingrid: denial DaveC: The drugs take over and become a way of life Mover777: anyone in that condition has to know - whether they do anything about it is another matter. ged wiggy: the box set remixes of heartbreaker material was wonderful and showed what a powerful unit they could have been Mover777: Jack Bruce hauled himself out of the abyss ... so did Page. DaveC: Everyone knows heroin kills, so why do people still get hooked? DaveC: So Did EC but is that more to do with luck? DaveC: Hell, look at Keith Richards!! Mover777: lol Mover777: well he had a 90% blood-transfusion Mover777: he took extreme measures DaveC: When he dies we arenītgoing to bury him, we are going to smoke him !! Mover777: heck just stand him up in a museum Mover777: heīs already mummified Sasha-Rostov: Are you kidding, DC? aida leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: lol Mover777: you know that transfusion thing almost killed him? ALMayer-NC leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: thatīs why they donīt do that procedure any more Mover777: too much body-rejection Sasha-Rostov: Keith Richards is immortal! ken hill: I donī think anythingīll kill Keith Mover777: he kills grass when he lies down in a yard methinks DaveC: lol ken hill: Itīī ll be the biggerst roach ever when he goes Mover777: btw, who is Simon Kossoff? what relation? DaveC: I bet heīs flammable !! ken hill: Brother of Paul Mover777: how many years age diff ? Sasha-Rostov: Dave C, LOL ingrid: so noone could kick his arse to get him away from the drugs? What weighed more? The split of Free or misunderstandings with his family? DaveC: Paul Kossoffīs brother? ken hill: a bit older donīt know how many years though, DC? Mover777: yes DaveC: Simon is two years older I believe Mover777: Ingrid, in the HL book youīll see they even nabbed Koss and ran away to try and clean him up - they didnīt have the treatments available then that we have now. ged wiggy: simon kossoff is a television cameraman his name is seen on many a tv credit lucypiller: Dave how many books would you say have sold total so far? Mover777: it would have been mostly Koss himself whoīd have needed to clean up, and he didnīt have a strong enough will - lots of great musicians were like that ingrid: Yeah, I read that, and i know itīs even a genetic dispostion, but sometimes I donīt want to realise such a waste of talent DaveC: One has to remember the drugs did not kill Paul. It was a blood clot due to altitude and flying ken hill: Simonīs moved on a bit, heīs abit more than just a Cameraman these days. Mover777: Itīs equal to any other great sad story in the history of rock, for sure. ALMayer-NC enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' lucypiller: Hey welcome back Al DaveC: The drugs didnīt help, but he did NOT OD lucypiller: I did call you while you were outta town Mover777: his heart conditions were more of a cause to his death, right? ingrid: But the drugs led to the complete standstill of his circukation, leaving him unconcious and more for over half an hour, ALMayer-NC: I was in Chicago...wish I could stay and see Queen/PR up there Mover777: the drugs destroyed his talent fan enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: Blood clot to the heart and lungs fan: hello lucypiller: hey welcome FAN? where ya from? fan: just a question..do you archive these chats? Sasha-Rostov: Hello fan, fan of ... ? lucypiller: who's asking? Sasha-Rostov: Are you from England? Mover777: if Free had been able to tour the USA more, they would have a lot bigger name here ... like Family, that was a major problem fan: sorry fan leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: bye, fan Mover777: ? lucypiller: I just like to know who is logging on DaveC: Was fan a spy????? lucypiller: :-) lucypiller: we get many ken hill: Looks like he/she got scared off DaveC: Does anyone care??? Mover777: maybe fan was Pablo? Sasha-Rostov: Lol ALMayer-NC: AL QUAIDA DaveC: Boo !! ingrid: canīt you trace it as the owner of the site,lucy? Mover777: she can trace the IP but what will that tell you? Sasha-Rostov: Poor Pablo - stupid guy! lucypiller: its not my style to trace people, I just like people to be honest chatters ingrid: maybe steven rosen...lol ken hill: Probably Reef Mover777: ha ha ha Sasha-Rostov: Sorry Lucy Mover777: hey, nobodyīs mentioned Rory lucypiller: Al you have to be careful using those names AQ DaveC: OK so I have to go in 15 mins or so. Does anyone have any Koss or achive questions I might be able to answer? Mover777: I think he and Kossoff never influenced each other lucypiller: as chat rooms are checked lucypiller: for words DaveC: Koss wanīt a Gallagher fan Mover777: thatīs too bad - Rory loved him Chuck-Balto: Dave, do you ever have any contact with Sless? ALMayer-NC: oops... hey theres a knock on my door lucypiller: very funny DaveC: I like Rory too. Nice guy also. lucypiller: lol ged wiggy: is there much chance of any koss material being released in near future? lucypiller: Sless was on earlier you know DaveC: Sure, I know Terry lucypiller: he had a gig tonight lucypiller: said if anyone had any questions to ask here Mover777: DaveC did you know the album with _____ is out that Koss/Kirke played on? Mover777: on German CD, remastered? lucypiller: and he would check them later and reply Chuck-Balto: I thought he wasnīt able to be here tonight? lucypiller: so leave your email and he will replu Sasha-Rostov: Dave C, what do you think about Ribin Trower? Did you seen him playing live last years? DaveC: There really isnīt much stuff left but we were looking into a īnewī Koss album. Its really up to Island to fund it so we can look through the tapes Mover777: if you can find any of the private jams that he did with Kirke that would be great - whatever the sound quality DaveC: The album with ???? ken hill: DC Koss didnīt really play on the Black Cat Bone Marquee thing did he? Mover777: the Blue Horizon album ged wiggy: do island make any money out of free still? Mover777: with the blues guy Mover777: my mind is blank right now ??? DaveC: No, thatīs Rod Price who replaced Koss ken hill: Cahmpion Jack Dupree DaveC: Jack Dupree? Mover777: not the BCB album Mover777: YES ken hill: or even Champion Mover777: sorry, couldnīt think Chuck-Balto: On the bootleg live at the marquee theyīre saying itīs Koss..... is it? DaveC: Thatīs out on Sony as a 2CD set with extra tracks Mover777: Anyway, itīs out - picture-CD, etc. ken hill: I donīt believe it is having bought the damn thing DaveC: There are no live bootlegs of BCBs with Koss DaveC: There are some rehearsal tapes but they arenīt released... yet Chuck-Balto: Thanks Dave, thatīs what I wanted to know..... Mover777: They made a 2-CD set of the CJD material ?? ken hill: Didnīt think so, just the rehearsal tapes huh? DaveC: I did release to tracks of BCBs with Koss for the PKFund some years ago ken hill: Yeah Iīve got a copy of those DaveC: Yes there is a 2CD set of the Blue Horizon Dupree material. Its on Amazon Sasha-Rostov leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: and itīs all from the Koss/Kirke sessions? Chuck-Balto: .....and the Complete Kossoff Sessions..... DaveC: One CD of it is from that album / sessions yes Mover777: oh, ok Mover777: so no extra tracks with them? DaveC: Complete Kossoff Session includes all the album tracks but this new remaster has a few unreleased tracks DaveC: they arenīt very good tho! Chuck-Balto: Dave, does Andy ever have plans of releasing the Toby material? DaveC: lol DaveC: Thatīs a NO ken hill: Are you selling it via FAS or will I have to go to Amazon? Mover777: Andy wouldnīt answer questions about Toby in the chat here a few months back. DaveC: The Dupree is on Amazon but if you have any problems let me know DaveC: Yea , that figures! Chuck-Balto: So I guess thereīs no chance he and Rodgers will ever collaborate again..... DaveC: The Toby stuff is very RAW but some of it is okay ingrid: do you really thinnk that would be possible after alll? DaveC: Andy and Paul are a universe apart these days lucypiller: Never say Never.............. Chuck-Balto: Travellinī Man from Pop Chronik is good..... ken hill: HAving listened to Andyīs latest album Iīm not sure how good an idea it would be. lucypiller: are Andys words ged wiggy: its the miller/fraser stuff that wants releasing DaveC: There is actually a version of that cut with a little bass solo at the beginning Mover777: I havenīt liked Fraserīs post-AFB material ..... too cabaret for me, I guess. DaveC: I thibk the Fraser / Miller stuff is FANTASIC DaveC: think ALMayer-NC: the question is ...who on guitar?? lucypiller: Have you got the new cd Dave? Chuck-Balto: how much is there? DaveC: Frankie or Paul K lucypiller: Frankie DaveC: Andyīs CD? DaveC: No, Iīve not heard it ken hill: Frankie was a a decent player DaveC: I was never a big fan of Frankies albums Mover777: DaveC - did Jude ever make any recordings, private jams or whatever? DaveC: Live he was great thoī DaveC: Andy claims he never played with Jude Mover777: ? Chuck-Balto: I donīt think he did.... DaveC: I might ask Robin about that lucypiller: I also dont think so Mover777: no, that was Miller/Trower/Bunker/ Mover777: and Trowerīs bassist DaveC: Dewar beracey enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' lucypiller: Here is TODD SMITH Mover777: yeah Mover777: sorry ken hill: Iīve got to go now, good to talk to you all, God bless Koss and letīs not forget David. Mover777: my mind is going now LOL lucypiller: Hey Todd Three HOURS we have been here lucypiller: lol Mover777: hello, Todd DaveC: Who is Todd Smith?? Mover777: ha ha Chuck-Balto: LOL Mover777: hi Barb ingrid: lol beracey: hi Todd beracey: hi Brian lucypiller: Pleased you could make it tksmith: wow! Mover777: thereīs a Miller/Trower song on the Miller Band album I have Mover777: itīs the best cut on that album ken hill leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: lol tksmith: Hello all ken hill enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' lucypiller: Hope you had a great day Todd Chuck-Balto: hello Todd ken hill leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: Frankie has written some great material over the years Mover777: and on Trowerīs first album, "I Canīt Wait Much Longer" was a Miller/Trower song ged wiggy: lucy whats the best kossoff gig you saw or anybody lucypiller: We did have Jaz and Howard Leese here also Carl Dunn and many other fans tksmith: Yes, good day - thank you Lucy - all well there? tksmith: who is David C? Mover777: Mr. Smith, thanks for "Heavy Load" - great book. lucypiller: Well if yu want to know which Free gig was best, I would look up my diary which I havent got handy right now. When I saw each gig I did rate it and talk about all of the 33 shows DaveC: lol DaveC: Oh just some know it all dude ALMayer-NC leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' beracey: lol tksmith: Thank you Mover777. It was David that made it all worth it. Mover777: Dave did you see MOJOīs crappy review of the box set? Really made me mad, they should have let Murray write it. DaveC: Couldnīt have done it without Todd Smith.... Believe it ! lucypiller: In my head I think a show in Epping sticks out in 1970 and also a place called FARX but the date I cannot remember, and of course the first time I saw FREE at the Country Club that must have been the most impact Chuck-Balto: kudos to the two of you!!! DaveC: I didnīy know they gave it a crappy review? Mover777: yup - very smart-ass DaveC: I have all the reviews DaveC: Some got their facts wrong, but thatīs okay Mover777: that writer is not one of their better ones - heīs crapped on alot of great albums Chuck-Balto: I have the Mojo and Record Collector reviews..... DaveC: I love the boxed set Mover777: he called the alternate take of ARN "lame," etc. lucypiller: ITs pure FREE DaveC: The RC review was a bit strange DaveC: I did write to them but they didn;t print the letter. I DID in the FAS Mover777: obviously Free is not at the top of that writerīs list of good bands ..... so he shouldnīt have reviewed it Chuck-Balto: A couple of Toby tracks wouldīve hurt..... lucypiller: It was so exciting when you both Todd and Dave were working on it and I was witnessing the development of the book DaveC: Well it is different, but thatīs the idea lucypiller: You were too funny Todd when I first met you in the UK gig DaveC: want the original, buy the album ! Chuck-Balto: Wouldnīt have I meant to say.,... tksmith: Thank you Chuck-Balto. Just reading some of the back comments. Mover777: I went ape when the box came out. DaveC: So did I lol Mover777: so many sounds now to the front that were lost on vinyl Mover777: not to mention the unreleased stuff DaveC: Andy wouldnīt go for the Toby stuff DaveC: which was a shame but I can live with that Chuck-Balto: It deserved to be the ībox set of the yearī..... Mover777: He didnīt care for the box, either - said only one cd of material was any good - heīs so critical! Mover777: at least Kirke likes it DaveC: I donīt think Andy īgetsī the boxed set ingrid: sorry, but do you refer to the box set as the songs of yesterday or am I completely on the wrong path?? Chuck-Balto: doesnīt īget itī at all.... yodaedwards enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: there are only two tracks on it I would consider "naff" but they are interesting in seeing a song develop DaveC: but thatīs okay too Mover777: yes, Ingrid DaveC: they are? tksmith: Yes, the box set was/is magnificient. Another major credit to David. I saw first hand how hard he worked. To this day it is the best box set in my collection. Mover777: yeah, Trouble on Double Time is pretty raw ingrid: thank you, mover...I couldnīt live anymore without this set!!!! Mover777: the final song of that is soooo great! DaveC: Hey, I forgot you were there for a couple of days!! Mover777: Woman of the Sea - to - Remember is really neat, too DaveC: Yes TODT is, but it shows the developement of the band after they split brieftly in 1969 lucypiller: Yes it is Todd the best Box set ingrid: Take cd4 and you know, why to envy Lucy ! Mover777: Has a great booklet, too. lucypiller: I wish I could take you all back in time to a gig, so you can experience what I did, you would not believe it Mover777: has my fave pic of the band in there ged wiggy: best tracks sail on- seven angels DaveC: The idea of the box was to show the developement of the band via the unreleased material and demos they made Chuck-Balto: mission accomplished!! DaveC: It is to be considered a companion to the officials albums Chuck-Balto: a very fitting companion.... Mover777: well Iīm glad that Koss/Martyn track surfaced on there - itīs so great ingrid: It has got such a personal touch to it, with false beginnings, throat clearings, and even unexpected tunes from Koss`s guitar. DaveC: Andy would have liked it to be another compilation I think DaveC: No īNEWī material Mover777: it also has the complete THE STEALER - too bad Free didnīt issue that on Highway like that DaveC: You have Andy to thank for that Chuck-Balto: It was.....an alternate compilation!!! Mover777: lol yodaedwards leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: Andy wanted his tracks pulled so a new edit of Time Awat became the whole jam Mover777: It has alot more life with all the guitar - too "tame" on the released album DaveC: Of all the tracks from Highway STEALER has the real KOSS on it ged wiggy: was anything else recorded by koss/ john martyn thats in the vault DaveC: Just firing it up, and that tone.......... Mover777: well, hopefully Island will wake up and snort the coffee grounds tksmith: I wanted to mention that I met Simon back stage at the Queen show in NYC. He looks great and healthy. He is so greatful to all the fans and especially made mention of Lucy. I wanted to pass that on. Mover777: cool DaveC: I still have to go through those tapes. There may be more lucypiller: Yes thank you Dave he told me he was there - he sent an update to me too for his website Mover777: Kossoff loved Be My Friend so much, yet it doesnīt have all that much of him on it - really unselfish ged wiggy: whats the reaction to queen/p rodgers in america? lucypiller: sorry I ment Simon told me lucypiller: This is a KOSSOFF chat DaveC: There is more after the fade.... but the master is missing!! Mover777: My reaction is - TICKETS COST TOO MUCH. outside of that , coolness ingrid: Did Simon like what he saw and heard? lucypiller: Yes he did, he really enjoyed the show lucypiller: Next week we can have a QPR chat if you wish Chuck-Balto: speaking of Simon....a friend from the UK sent me a 2 cd set of his solo show in Scotland... beracey: bye all, have to go to work, it was interesting and informative, ty Lucy once again Mover777: so go in late Mover777: they wonīt care Mover777: lucypiller: lol lucypiller: So you have a boot of simon lucypiller: how funny beracey: canīt, super just called Mover777: tut tut Chuck-Balto: yeah..... DaveC: Down to the hardcore now lucy  beracey: byeeeee lucypiller: Bye Beracey beracey leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' lucypiller: Is it a decent recording of Simon Mover777: I will hold off on the KKTR import CD in hopes of a remaster. DaveC: There is a really good boot from the Scotland shows going around - 2CD Chuck-Balto: very good since itīs an acoustic show..... Chuck-Balto: Dave, thatīs the one I have.... lucypiller: so Dave this must be the same as Chucks lucypiller: I would love to hear it KossLady enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' DaveC: There is a remaster with extra cuts but Island wonīt release it. I did it four years ago!! Chuck-Balto: Iīm certain it is! KossLady: Hi everyone! Yay I made it ingrid: what month would you expect him to play there again? KossLady: Better late than never! DaveC: The Japanese remaster SOUND GREAT THOī lucypiller: Who Simon in the UK tksmith: Hi Ged-Wiggy, Yes Queen/PR show is very good. Much the same as the DVD. Powerful in places. Sell about 8-12,000 a night. Mover777: so put it out as a private CD mail-order and bolt the doors so the bobbies canīt break it down ingrid: yes Lucy, at the Bein Inn. Try to arrrange my schedule in order to go there DaveC: It MAY come out yet!! DaveC: BSC with extra cuts too Mover777: these record company execs suck so bad now lucypiller: Well I did find him those gigs but have now found a new guy to look after him KossLady: Hi Dave - my nameīs Amy - nice to meet ya DaveC: Its all down to ĢĢĢĢĢ Mover777: whereīs the Tony Stratten-Smithīs and so on these days? Chuck-Balto: Howīs the sound on the BSC Jap reissue? lucypiller: if you check either the fan site of Simons or when the new Simon website is built hopefully some more gigs will come up DaveC: Hi Amy KossLady: Hi Lucy & everyone DaveC: Those to issues are very, very good DaveC: two KossLady: Everyone listening to Free? Mover777: Back Street Crawler is such a great cover ged wiggy: what happened to vocal version of bsc? and whos the singer i have a bootleg DaveC: Sorry my spelling finger is off today !! DaveC: Eugene Wallace is the singer Mover777: Montrose stole the ideo for Presents Chuck-Balto: Iīve always heard that there was a version with vocals but Iīve yet to hear it DaveC: Koss rubbed the vocal from the master tape, sadly KossLady: Dave, are you still doing the FAS zine? Mover777: Molten Gold survives lucypiller: Simon should be playing more shows at the Bein Inn but nothing has been booked yet DaveC: We were going to try and fly the vocals in from a mix tape to a new mix DaveC: Yes FAS is on 110 DaveC: which freaks me out! lucypiller: Todd how do you like Mike Lowry KossLady: cool - I need to save up some money lucypiller: maybe not your style DaveC: Molten Gold is from the FAL sessions KossLady: only thing is I need to figure out where the heck to get a money oreder in pounds DaveC: send $ DaveC: or use Paypal KossLady: Oh I can? KossLady: REALLY?????? DaveC: Sure KossLady: on the form it sez no $ KossLady: GREAT! DaveC: Iīm not proud enough to be fussy !!! DaveC: $$ in cash are fine KossLady: houw much is it then - guess the info is old KossLady leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: oh, I remember what I was going to ask yaīll - what about the Free "Inside Free 1969-1971" DVD - is it worth picking up and paying import price for? DaveC: but obviously I canīt cash checks in US$ DaveC: No Lucyīs info is current Chuck-Balto: No.... ged wiggy: inside free is very poor dont buy DaveC: The price hasnīt changed for years.... but donīt tempt me! Mover777: k DaveC: Buy the Rock Review DVD it is better Chuck-Balto: Mover, if you have to have it....I can dub you a copy.... ingrid: unfortunately there are no personal interviews on it, well just to complete your collection,.... DaveC: I have those for Ģ8 + shipping Mover777: well I have the "ded to Koss" laserdisc - is there diff material on it? Chuck-Balto: No.... ged wiggy: why hasnt free at isle of wight been released DaveC: There is a 2DVD bootleg called FREE Story that is the one to get right now Chuck-Balto: The best thing about the Inside Free is the guy showing you how to play The Stealer riff....\ Mover777: Maybe theyīll get a decent documentary one day. DaveC: Official set coming.... maybe Chuck-Balto: Isle of Wight? DaveC: we canīt find all the IOW footage - if it ever existed ingrid: and Geoff Whitehornīs explanations, but thatīs it then DaveC: We are working on a multi camera thing for release Mover777: Roryīs brother said he was going to issue the Taste IOW footage 6 yrs ago - and yet, here we are. lucypiller: Can someone send me a copy of the Simon show in the Bein Inn - I will pay for postage etc DaveC: Yes Isle Of Wight DaveC: The problem is this ged wiggy: the tull set came out last year Chuck-Balto: Lucy, I will....donīt worry about postage.... lucypiller: Thank you Chuck Mover777: yeah, that was/is a good live album DaveC: Murray Lerner sold his film to various sources Mover777: we need the video, thoī lucypiller: lol DaveC: mostly SONY DaveC: and they want BIG $$$$$$ to use any of it Mover777: btw, the Japanese laserdisc of IOW has 4 extra tracks Mover777: not on the DVD lucypiller: how long are you in the states Dave? DaveC: Island own three FREE cuts, and this may be all there is, BUT DaveC: there are multiple cameras of that footage Chuck-Balto: what are the four extra tracks? Mover777: Taste - Gambling Blues, Hendrix, Family doing Weaverīs Answer, and ELP lucypiller: Hey guys this CHAT is going to end at 7pm OK DaveC: Iīm here until Friday lucypiller: thanks Mover777: the Hendrix track came out on the IOW concert laser & DVD Mover777: of Jimiīs show ingrid: thatīs exactly 1 am where I am DaveC: and Chuck needs to come down and BUYME LUNCH!! Chuck-Balto: Dave, Silver Spring, Md.? lucypiller: not too far to go DaveC: Yup Chuck-Balto: LOL tksmith: Sorry Lucy - have not located the Mike Lowry DaveC: Until,Fri lucypiller: I shall send another one yes Mover777: Sony being buttheads means nothing will ever happen with that material - so, they make nothing from it at all. Mover777: the audience will die off before that stuff comes out properly DaveC: i do try my best to get everything out !! tksmith leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: I know. Too bad you are not Emperor Chuck-Balto: Dave, if you can make it up to B-more.....I can buy lunch! DaveC: but you canīt imagine the people I have to deal with Mover777: David for emperor !!!!! ged wiggy: did free play at isle of wight 1969 also? DaveC: Thatīs a long walk Broī DaveC: Yes they did, four songs! Mover777: I have dealt with Warner Brotherīs on Hammer movie reissues. They are īwipes to the extreme. DaveC: lol DaveC: Where did Todd go? Chuck-Balto: Dave, Iīll see how my work schedule is this coming week....is there a way to get in touch with you? Mover777: we could have had the complete "Horror of Dracula" but they wouldnīt mail the full print from Japan to California - so we have the American/English censored version. Mover777: Whatīs postage, $40 maybe???????!!? Mover777: total dicks DaveC: You can email me. Lucy wil gibe you the address DaveC: give Mover777: What kind of īsuitsī are at Island now? Mover777: are they all kids? KossLady enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' gerrybee1 enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' Mover777: or ex-oil barons? DaveC: Some god guys there right now DaveC: Thatīs why Iīm talking to them again Mover777: well letīs hope theyīll turn around on your projects. KossLady: ok weīre having storms so I might drop out at any time DaveC: Some BIG Free fans.......finally Mover777: wow!!!! Mover777: great! Chuck-Balto: hereīs hoping!!!! Mover777: Koss are you in Tx ? DaveC: where are you Kosslady? KossLady: Arlington TX Mover777: thought so Mover777: beracey is in Tx, too Mover777: bad storms DaveC: Its ok here, but cool !! KossLady: Iīm just glad for the rain! DaveC: Come on over!! Chuck-Balto: a bit chilly today! KossLady: I like this better than 90 degrees! Mover777: well I need to run - thanks so much for the informative chat - thanks Lucy for getting it together!!!! lucypiller: ALways good to see you all ged wiggy: you should be in yorkshire england - freezing Chuck-Balto: take it easy, Mover.... DaveC: Iīd love someone to come over and peel this sleeping cat off my LAP !! KossLady: lol KossLady: Iīm a īcat mommyī Mover777 leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' lucypiller: me too :-) KossLady: Mine is snoozin on the pillow on the bed ingrid: nothing compared to Austria, around freezing point! ged wiggy: wake em up with mr big loud DaveC: Tippy is snoring on my lap! KossLady: So Dave - the prices are still $24/$47 surface and $32/$63 for air? DaveC: Sure, love those CLAWS!! In my LAP dude!! KossLady: lol DaveC: Yea thatīs pretty much right KossLady: k KossLady: prob next month DaveC: Go for air - surface takes forever.... KossLady: I know DaveC: No worries KossLady: Iīll need your PP addy... ingrid: Well guys, itīs been nice talking to you, Iīve gotta go now as itīs getting late in my part of the world lucypiller: Talk soon Ingrid thanks for stopping KossLady: Bye Ingrid ingrid: bye for now, hope to meet you soon lucypiller: Some day yes Chuck-Balto: ībye Ingrid DaveC: OK everyone, light a candle for Koss tonight and play some good music DaveC: Peace to you all KossLady: Iīm gonna attempt the music again KossLady: bye Chuck-Balto: cheers, Dave ingrid leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' KossLady: nice to meet you lucypiller: Bye Dave lucypiller: Hugs DaveC: bye everyone. Kisses to Lucy for arranging this lucypiller: Thanks for joining in Dave lucypiller: byeeeeeeee DaveC: New FREE products coming this year lucypiller: super ged wiggy: good night all DaveC: byeeeee lucypiller: bye Chuck-Balto: CANīT WAIT!!!! lucypiller: Well folks DaveC leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' ged wiggy leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' KossLady: Iīm glad I at least made it for the last little bit lucypiller: I need to make some dinner so its time to say Goodnight till the next time KossLady: Bye Lucy KossLady: thanks for having this chat Chuck-Balto: Lucy, one quick question.....do you have the Back Street Crawler with vocals track? tksmith enters the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' KossLady: Dinnerīs ready here too lucypiller: dont think so lucypiller: which do you mean lucypiller: hey again Todd Chuck-Balto: okay.....have to track down ged wiggy.... lucypiller: yeh I really didnt collect BSC stuff Chuck-Balto: the track from Kossīs Back Street Crawler solo album.... lucypiller: I will have a look though lucypiller: everything is boxed up in my home lucypiller: as we had work done and I have to put everything in boxes lucypiller: so will look thnough KossLady: All I ever heard was Band Plays On Chuck-Balto: Lucy, I need your address to send the Simon show..... lucypiller: I will send it to your email KossLady: canīt find anything on the music sub. sites - MusicMatch or Rhapsody lucypiller: its the same as before yes Chuck-Balto: okay...cheers lucypiller: send me an email lucypiller: and I will reply with it lucypiller: piller@fan.net lucypiller: Thank you for that KossLady: Lucy - Iīll have to send ya an email for Daveīs PP addy Chuck-Balto: no problem.... lucypiller: ok tksmith: sorry lucy - computer froze - thanks for the chat lucypiller: Thanks for coming Todd lucypiller: I will send you Mike Lowry again lucypiller: look out for it OK Chuck-Balto: īnight, everyone..... Lucy, Todd, ..... Chuck-Balto leaves the room 'Allrightnow Lounge' tksmith: OK - cheers all! lucypiller: Bye Chuck KossLady: bye Chuck lucypiller: Bye Todd KossLady: Todd -
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